Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dried vine fruit

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Dried vine fruit

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Bit of a terminological issue here, but ultimately this should be merged with Raisin. BenKuykendall (talk) 15:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. BenKuykendall (talk) 15:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
• Keep, passes WP:GNG. GBooks reveals a large number of books on this subject. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 09:28, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
• @SailingInABathTub: Sorry, I should have been more detailed. I'm not arguing the topic is non-notable, but rather a WP:CFORK of Raisin. They're both different terms for dried grapes. There are some terminological issues: some speakers exclude "sultanas" or "currants" from the category of "grape", other include them... But still the topic of "dried grapes" is best addressed in a single article. BenKuykendall (talk) 12:58, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

There may well be a better way to handle the overlap between these pages but deletion is not it. On one hand you say that dried vine fruit (which includes sultanas and currants) and raisins are synonymous terms for dried grapes, on the other you say that 'some speakers exclude "sultanas" or "currants" from the category of "grape"' (did you mean Raisin?). So the proposal to merge is taking a particular point-of-view. Regardless this should probably be a talk page discussion - not a deletion discussion. SailingInABathTub ~~🛁~~ 13:25, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

• Keep - Overlap alone does not establish WP:CFORK per WP:RELAR. As pointed out by SailingInABathTub, this should have been handled on the Talk per WP:BEFORE B4, C1 and C3. Deletion of this article does not improve Wikipedia. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 14:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.