30 Minutes Of Frame Whisperer Going Scorched Earth

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  • Опубликовано: 8 апр 2025
  • Frame Whisperer joined the most recent Tekken Talk to give his opinions on everything going on with Tekken and the community and he did not hold back.
    Original Live Stream - • Tekken Talk Post Chaos...
    #tekken8 #gaming #tekken8

Комментарии • 522

  • @Dopameme
    @Dopameme 3 дня назад +420

    "release the block list, Murray" killed me

    • @johnnymonsterrrr
      @johnnymonsterrrr 3 дня назад +24

      i also want to see the list of content creators on payroll since so many people say how everyone was so fair and honest about everything

    • @JunKazamaFan
      @JunKazamaFan 3 дня назад +15

      Got to be longer than Epstein's.

    • @bigbangbot-SuperSqank
      @bigbangbot-SuperSqank 3 дня назад

      Boys want the Epstein flight logs.
      Men want the Micheal Murray Twitter block list.

    • @bigbangbot-SuperSqank
      @bigbangbot-SuperSqank 3 дня назад +18

      Boys want the flight logs.
      Men want the Micheal Murray Twitter block list.

    • @Deep_wolf
      @Deep_wolf 2 дня назад +4

      @@johnnymonsterrrr you can start with thesalesmanswe, shilldx, spagettiripped, king jae, marksman, tastedsteven, etc.

  • @GFClocked
    @GFClocked 3 дня назад +330

    They hated him because he spoke the truth.

    • @walmartian422
      @walmartian422 3 дня назад +4

      Nobody hates him though this is the default opinion right now well maybe Murray and Harada hate him. That quote is usually reserved for moments when someone speaks a harsh truth during a difficult time.

    • @GFClocked
      @GFClocked 3 дня назад +39

      @walmartian422 yeah nobody hates him NOW. but he was saying this since forever. Even just a few weeks ago this was very unpopular.

    • @atuls55
      @atuls55 3 дня назад +6

      @@GFClocked What? People were criticizing the game from the beginning including some of the biggest names like Knee and Arslan. Frame spent 70% of the time overreacting about the shop and making a lot of assumptions without knowing the full picture.

    • @UnCh4rT3D
      @UnCh4rT3D 3 дня назад +17

      ​@@walmartian422 like 80% of the tekken subreddit hates him from what Ive seen

    • @genzo454
      @genzo454 3 дня назад

      @@UnCh4rT3D Really? As someone who spends a lot of time in the subreddit, I rarely ever see people talk about Frame at all. It's mostly TMM and PhiDx who are talked about, in terms of community members.

  • @Kai-jn7pn
    @Kai-jn7pn 3 дня назад +299

    The amount of abuse he got from the toxic positivity crowd only to be proven right at the end. You can criticise something but that doesn't mean you entirely hate it. These Tekken 8 loverboys need to get that through their thick skulls.

    • @genzo454
      @genzo454 3 дня назад +28

      What do you mean? FrameWhisperer fundamentally hates Tekken 8. He hates it entirely. This isn't in question. He is criticizing Tekken 8, _and_ hating it. Also, I don't think many "Tekken 8 loverboys" are watching/interacting with Frame. Most of them are likely barely interacting with the community at all, much less Frame.

    • @Ock_mantis
      @Ock_mantis 3 дня назад +5

      ​@@genzo454 agreed

    • @sorubro2193
      @sorubro2193 3 дня назад +9

      ​@@genzo454that doesn't make him wrong though

    • @genzo454
      @genzo454 3 дня назад +8

      @@sorubro2193 When did I say he was wrong? When? Tell me.

    • @c16621
      @c16621 3 дня назад

      They are low IQ narcissists. Narcs can't face facts, don't live in reality, and are DELUSIONAL.

  • @frozzytango9927
    @frozzytango9927 3 дня назад +378

    Frame wasnt whispering this time. He was spitting fire.

  • @brachydios1230
    @brachydios1230 3 дня назад +191

    When Frame speaks, I listen

  • @DjGaiden
    @DjGaiden 3 дня назад +180

    The Nostradamus Of League.
    Him and Aris have predicted ALL of this since the beginning of Tekken 7. This is not just bad developers. They planned on bringing these bad developers on more and more as the audience exposure widens.

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 2 дня назад +8

      2 button cinematic supers and unrelated guest characters were the original ill omens. Then add in reduced movement + abbreviated movesets, and it showed problems aplenty, were incoming.

    • @finnmarr-heenan2397
      @finnmarr-heenan2397 2 дня назад +1

      If he bought the game he didn’t predict shit

    • @myb8955
      @myb8955 2 дня назад +9

      @@finnmarr-heenan2397 Except he did, regard. I'm sure you can predict that the user experience on RUclips is gonna get worse in the future based on how its only ever gotten worse, but are you gonna stop watching RUclips before or even after it does? No, you're not.

    • @purplevincent4454
      @purplevincent4454 2 дня назад +1

      @@myb8955 consumers are so pathetic these days. there is no "free market" if you can't help but buy something. control yourself.

    • @myb8955
      @myb8955 2 дня назад

      @@purplevincent4454 You're preaching to the choir, I didn't spend a single dime on T8. If we're casting stones at nebulous demographics I could make an equally pithy put down of producers today for desperately clamoring to meet the standards of the lowest common denominator.

  • @BorsPepsi
    @BorsPepsi 3 дня назад +137

    I love shit like this, no holding back, no sugarcoating, no bullshit.

    • @ryanhass8716
      @ryanhass8716 3 дня назад +11

      Frame definitely ain't gonna sugar coat it.

    • @HarmonicResonanceScale
      @HarmonicResonanceScale 2 дня назад +14

      no holding back? like season 2.

    • @Impalingthorn
      @Impalingthorn День назад +3

      You love to see it.
      And frankly, as a person who saw all these issues coming back at the beginning of Tekken 7 in 2015, it's VERY cathartic to see all the people who shilled this franchise right up until it reached this point get called out. Blind support for corporate entities only produces more predatory products that sacrifice quality for financial gain.

    • @BorsPepsi
      @BorsPepsi День назад

      @@Impalingthorn Well fuckin said.

  • @donuttoy8482
    @donuttoy8482 3 дня назад +112

    Look at the screen, Michael

  • @XNDL44
    @XNDL44 3 дня назад +93

    I could listen to Frame and Aris verbally curb stomp season 2 of Tekken 8 for an hour straight

    • @ryanhass8716
      @ryanhass8716 3 дня назад +6

      Has Aris talked about S2? I didn't see anything about it but I'd love to hear what he has to say about this dumpster fire lol

    • @BronzeAgePepper
      @BronzeAgePepper 3 дня назад +21

      ​​@@ryanhass8716 I thought the same thing seeing a clip from this stream earlier, Aris must be big chillin streaming whatever tf he wants that isn't Tekken. He's lucky to have such a big audience (which he deserves for being legitimately funny) who will hang with him any time, and he's not just "the Tekken guy" like he was most known as in the past. I know he did play T8 for a bit but I guess he was so critical of it, even before this trainwreck of a patch, that he was no longer in Harada's good graces. No way he could be with how outspoken he is.

    • @Someone_Somewhere7
      @Someone_Somewhere7 3 дня назад +27

      ​​@@ryanhass8716 last thing I saw about Tekken from him was a clip of him complimenting Tekken 6 visuals while watching a Tekken 8 tournament with Michael Murray in the chat. Incredible moment.

    • @ryanhass8716
      @ryanhass8716 3 дня назад +2

      @Someone_Somewhere7 lmao I believe it, holy shit I love that guy

    • @xHuie
      @xHuie 3 дня назад +8

      only heard aris say he feels bad for people that stream as job but their channels community is based entirely off tekken

  • @HWHY
    @HWHY 3 дня назад +86

    Frame singlehandedly saved me $70 when this game released.

    • @chaunceywashington2493
      @chaunceywashington2493 3 дня назад +16

      Crazy how you saved so much more regarding both season pass

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 3 дня назад +21

      @HWHY Bandai Namco did that for me at that infamous meeting in the run-up to T8's launch, where they proclaimed that 'aggression' would be the watchword for the game and that turtling would be penalised. Them giving me fair warning not to go anywhere near T8 is quite literally the _only_ positive thing that they've done in relation to the game, as far as I'm concerned.

  • @ukaszpazera5951
    @ukaszpazera5951 2 дня назад +23

    What an absolute beast. Idiots always get this wrong. The biggest critic is never someone who doesn't care. They can only be so heated and so critical BECAUSE they love the thing in question.

  • @CephlonMayngrum
    @CephlonMayngrum 3 дня назад +78

    He may talk bad about t8 but the way he attacked namco was the equivalent of heat, rage, prolonged combos, and rage art.

    • @genzo454
      @genzo454 3 дня назад +11

      Class 1 launcher into full stage wall carry, wall resplat, Heat Dash into spike, into de-scaled ender. While in Rage.

    • @daddydise
      @daddydise 3 дня назад

      And he started off with a ki charge 😂

    • @Celldweller02
      @Celldweller02 3 дня назад +5

      @@genzo454 And all of this while pressing 1 button like Lidia combo

    • @had2lyk
      @had2lyk 3 дня назад +2

      @@genzo454i see nothing wrong buff paul and bryan

    • @sokoman8261
      @sokoman8261 2 дня назад

      It's more like an optimal punish imo

  • @norinori6414
    @norinori6414 3 дня назад +118

    King Jae sitting there like "Uh oh"

    • @Paint8087
      @Paint8087 3 дня назад +14

      Suspicious AF?..

    • @neegas2857
      @neegas2857 3 дня назад +28

      A lot of tekken RUclips creators are prohibited from saying the truth. I remember when Lil Majin saw the Steve trailer and he was like “he looks awesome… look at his design”, and keep in mind he facial graphical design are so flat, no texture, and looks like he has Botox. But he just sucked namco hard without really telling it how it is.

    • @EthnicWeeb
      @EthnicWeeb 3 дня назад

      @@neegas2857 I remember that video, and I think you mischaracterized him. He was complimenting the outfit and defending the Union Jack's inclusion.

    • @neegas2857
      @neegas2857 3 дня назад +15

      @@EthnicWeeb nope just checked, what his video from Nov. 29th 2023 @ minute 3:14
      He mentions the characters face and that it looks better than better iterations and then the whole video mentions more admiring of the character design etc. these are all assumptions but there are several videos where he limits fully criticizing the game. I mean i saw his stream recently and of course as a king main, he’s cumming on all the buffs. Frame whisper explains this similar thing with mainman where he seems to be for the community… but not entirely so as he litteraly lives off of making tekken content. More power to him but sometimes it’s good to hear all versions and all perspectives.

    • @stankynut3832
      @stankynut3832 2 дня назад +3

      ​@@neegas2857I honestly think that Majin just kind of formulates his own opinion and stays in his lane despite what the large fanbase opinions are on the game lol. He doesn't compete at all anymore and he mainly uploads Tekken matches from his stream so I don't think he's the type to be paid off by namco. He doesn't upload videos that praise the developers or try to spin that Tekken 8 is good.

  • @JunKazamaFan
    @JunKazamaFan 3 дня назад +70

    It is so sad that FrameWhisperer has been vindicated by history. Tekken 8 just can't stop getting in its own way.

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 2 дня назад +6

      Have you been following SNK and the City of the Wolves, fiasco? Man I cancelled my deluxe edition physical over their last 2 announced (irl non-)fighters. It's a shitshow over there, too.

    • @VDViktor
      @VDViktor 2 дня назад

      @@TexasHollowEarthwhat “fiasko”? Game is awesome

    • @ababyharpseal6534
      @ababyharpseal6534 День назад

      @@TexasHollowEarth It's all just so sad... I can't help but feel that fighting games are in a bad way right now. I never cared much for Virtua Fighter before, but now I'm actively hoping it sticks the landing and becomes the next big thing in the FGC.

    • @GibbyVee
      @GibbyVee 10 часов назад

      @@ababyharpseal6534lmao i been a vf head hahah. We good. VF has too much respect in japan. Its God over there. Theyll never fuck up

  • @N00BSYBORG
    @N00BSYBORG 3 дня назад +78

    Facts. More people need to call out the toxic positivity and bring back gatekeeping. It happened to Guilty Gear with Strive, Mortal Kombat with MK1, and now it's happening to Tekken. Everything goes to shit when there's no criticism allowed or basic fundamentals of the game you need to be required to understand before being allowed to give input on it.

    • @Celldweller02
      @Celldweller02 3 дня назад +2

      And also that fucking word "respectfully" on twitter where every interaction with devs should start like that because these gentle creatures might take offense otherwise. Respect is earned and not granted ant those petty 1mbec1les did not ern it and I would even say otherwise by pissing like that on their community they deserve every flaming comments coming their way.

    • @stormcutter59
      @stormcutter59 3 дня назад +6

      Street Fighter is going through it too. Same with Smash Brothers. It's everywhere.

    • @eVuLeX
      @eVuLeX 2 дня назад

      @@stormcutter59 how are SF players feeling right now? for me after some days, it was just annoying with the constant rush etc.
      i heard bryan say something like " at some point, u WILL get into a throw loop" something i alway hated about SF but is it even worse now?

    • @finalboss5966
      @finalboss5966 2 дня назад +1

      i have taken refuge in Melty Blood and oh boy, i have been sleeping on this game. Scratches the itch Strive would never hope to reach

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 2 дня назад +5

      It's really bad at SNK right now. City of the Wolves has been sabotaged from within.

  • @finn_TK
    @finn_TK 3 дня назад +168

    Scorched Earth. 🐉

  • @storyabout8245
    @storyabout8245 3 дня назад +26

    Mainmanswe was calling "Tekken 8 the greatest Tekken of all time" when we already have Tekken 3, 5, 7. He and others only changed their tune because they saw huge community backlash and they didn't wanted any of that. So none of them are making honest opinions, they are now just cutting their losses. I don't even play tekken now, I started watching tournament matches from Tekken 7 and I realized how fun and how hype those matches were because Tekken 7 was a perfect combination of offence and defense and atleast I was able to see what is happening on the screen. Once they dropped first Tekken 8 character gameplay trailer (Nina), I knew immediately that they are turning this game into cancer. I feel extremely sorry for pro players who have to put up with this shit game. I don't even play this game and even then I can't tolerate these braindead mechanics from very beginning

    • @aboAli90HS
      @aboAli90HS 2 дня назад +5

      t7 is magical.its like a modern hidden gem.i still play it

    • @superslavbross9935
      @superslavbross9935 2 дня назад

      @@aboAli90HS to be honest. if Tekken 7 had less tracking and better sidesteps , community would call it the best teklken ever imho.

    • @Shiratto
      @Shiratto 2 дня назад +3

      ​@@superslavbross9935 People are already saying that even with the dlc cast and 2d characters being the way they are.

  • @rrrlee1273
    @rrrlee1273 3 дня назад +63

    This is how vf will take off. If namco doesn't do anything about this, the moment that game release im hopping ship so quick lol

    • @ShimanoGoro1
      @ShimanoGoro1 3 дня назад +19

      The best advertising ever

    • @Darren1545
      @Darren1545 3 дня назад +8

      Facts, bro!!💯💯💯

    • @a.alphonso6193
      @a.alphonso6193 3 дня назад +4

      yeah right LOL no one is playing that shite

    • @Kerps123
      @Kerps123 3 дня назад +3

      The problem with VF is its literally 50/50 the game. So if you hate 50/50 in tekken you will not be having fun in VF. I play Vanessa and i just play her tackle game 24/7. its not the best but you gotta keep guessing my offense lol.

    • @hijster479
      @hijster479 2 дня назад +8

      ​@@Kerps123Not 50/50, RPS. VF gives you options and a fair bit of grace on defense. Side stepping actually works, blocking and teching are rewarding, and launchers and tracking moves have notable downsides, often being outright punishable.

  • @Pikachu-qr4yb
    @Pikachu-qr4yb 3 дня назад +71

    I hope Murray sees this

    • @snoopybas
      @snoopybas 3 дня назад +8

      he will see this no doubt, the question what will be his reaction

    • @Pikachu-qr4yb
      @Pikachu-qr4yb 3 дня назад +20

      @ block probably

    • @loopseeker
      @loopseeker 3 дня назад +14

      @@Pikachu-qr4ybwhy listen when he can just block

    • @samseison
      @samseison 3 дня назад

      ​@@Pikachu-qr4yb funny how he gets to block us but WE get put into 50-50 situations where one of the options breaks guard and guarantees damage.

    • @Angel7black
      @Angel7black 2 дня назад +1

      @@loopseekerthat honestly will never not be funny. I’m convinced he nerfed devil jins mids to shit at the end of T7 and S1 of T8 just to be right about blocking hellsweep over side stepping. What as dumbass but the man is like in his 40’s or something and wears a beiber bowl, idk what else i’d expect

  • @sulfreez
    @sulfreez 3 дня назад +60

    Virtua Fighter has the concept of 50/50 (二択 - nitaku, "having two choices"), that usually is about having +6 frames so your opponent has to guess between you throwing or striking him. The main difference is that nitakus are never given. You earn this right to force a guess by correctly timing your block or attack, so along with throw escape guesswork it adds to the game's depth and makes it more interesting and fun.

    • @zekiel2533
      @zekiel2533 3 дня назад +15

      Exactly. It's part of the system. Tekken ain't built for nitaku. It's almost anti nitaku because it was hard to lock players down with frames. It's now completely different where heat causes confusion

    • @atuls55
      @atuls55 3 дня назад +7

      VF never puts you in the situation that you have to guess between blocking a frametrap mid or a frametrap low which can't be sidestepped that T8 does. Defence is far more active because it's mostly about throws (which can be broken and attacked through) and mids and has many option select techs to deal with muliple things. They did dumb this down in the last VF before the big break though by getting rid of the multi throw escape system.

    • @sulfreez
      @sulfreez 3 дня назад +5

      @atuls5 Removal of MTEs buffed throw-heavy chars so it's not necessarily a dumb move on AM2 part. There is less sense in command throw as an attack option, if it can be consistently neutralized.
      There are no "throws" in Tekken, it's another kind of attack as opposed to VF "triangle" (guard>attack>throw>guard).

    • @atuls55
      @atuls55 2 дня назад

      @@sulfreez The multi throw system in VF and all it's implications go a lot deeper than that. When they changed it they lowered the skill ceiling and made it less interesting. Top players could do triple or even quad throw escapes and force the attacker to work around that abililty using delays etc. VF4 had other more powerful defensive option selects which were unintened but the pros seem to like that. I hate the what they did to VF's movement system even more than that though.

  • @BettersonMcgee
    @BettersonMcgee 3 дня назад +63

    Frame unchained

  • @chucklos391
    @chucklos391 3 дня назад +31

    The direction that Tekken has gone in addition to others is the reason Tekken lost it's best Tekken content creator and best tournament commentator Aris. Aris also mentioned that he felt that Tekken was not good at supporting their content creators. The people who promote and help sell their game.

    • @Kerps123
      @Kerps123 3 дня назад +7

      Dude Aris left because of Tekken fans as well. Not just the game.

    • @chucklos391
      @chucklos391 2 дня назад +3

      @@Kerps123 yes. I know. I heard him say that too.

    • @egrassa1480
      @egrassa1480 2 дня назад +6

      ​@@Kerps123yeah sure, Tekken fans that could've done anything to him, same people who keep donating and subbing to his channel. It's obvious that he left the scene because of the game

  • @mrkarateman
    @mrkarateman 2 дня назад +18

    King Jae being super silent all the time lmao
    Frame’s stand alone video gonna be a banger

  • @YellowFellow86
    @YellowFellow86 3 дня назад +22

    Thank you for clipping this.
    I agree with him.
    Muppet Murray and Hopeless Hard-headed Harada deserve all of this for their clownishness.
    Greed over gameplay at Scumco.

    • @zafo103
      @zafo103 2 дня назад +2

      Fact. 😭💜🙏🙏🙏

  • @JustAnotherRandomGamer
    @JustAnotherRandomGamer 3 дня назад +18

    Summary of the patch:
    "This character has a weakness, so we removed it!"

    • @ItsShaggy3
      @ItsShaggy3 2 дня назад +4

      "When everyone is broken, no one is. BTW there's new tshirt & avatar skin coming out tomorrow" - Tekken team

  • @ChadTheThirdUK
    @ChadTheThirdUK 3 дня назад +94

    I think it's safe to say Frame has no interest in visiting the new island....

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  3 дня назад +75

      NONE OF US DO. YOU'RE NOT GOING EITHER 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗡️

    • @BeretBay
      @BeretBay 3 дня назад +2

      ​@@RealMikeHollow 💀💀

    • @Gauze-k9c
      @Gauze-k9c 3 дня назад +1

      Lmao
      Like I get your point but c’mon this is unbearable.

    • @TheNomadJack
      @TheNomadJack 2 дня назад +2

      I’m with you Chad. Let’s go to the new Island, and if its still shit, we will just go back to VF island 😂

    • @ChadTheThirdUK
      @ChadTheThirdUK 2 дня назад +2

      @@TheNomadJack THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING!!! lol

  • @christiansamuelstadeus
    @christiansamuelstadeus 3 дня назад +47

    i love how he, as a creator, hasn't managed, in all these years, to get one single proper microphone.

    • @blackout0119
      @blackout0119 3 дня назад +10

      He said he is on vacation in Japan so surely he doesn’t have proper equipment with him

    • @blockchainballer4542
      @blockchainballer4542 3 дня назад +7

      @@blackout0119his audio has sounded like this for years bro lol.

    • @christiansamuelstadeus
      @christiansamuelstadeus 3 дня назад +4

      ​@@blackout0119 Oh, didn't know this time, my bad. He has a history though.

    • @dovs96
      @dovs96 2 дня назад

      Nah its not the same to be fair, but yeah, it's surely not as crisp as some would wish. But, honestly, i didnt even notice it here until you said that lol.
      When dude spits fire on namco with all his "certified hate-speech professional" charisma​ it overshadows such minor details lol.
      I mean, It's not entertaining to watch this every week or so, but from time to time, and on a big occasions like this, it's an absolute cinema.
      @@blockchainballer4542

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 День назад +2

      Only shills can afford microphones😂

  • @songoku9348
    @songoku9348 3 дня назад +30

    Glad you’re recovering Mike. I do find these streams amusing and funny at times.

    • @JustOdae
      @JustOdae 3 дня назад +11

      Oddly formatted compliment sandwich lmao

  • @GodlikeOCD
    @GodlikeOCD 3 дня назад +33

    I stopped supporting them ever since the heihachi stage debacle

    • @LuciferLuvss
      @LuciferLuvss 2 дня назад +7

      Valid, that was such a cheap tactic. I was salty they lied and said Heihachi was dead just to bring him back as DLC, but not giving me a stage after I paid like $90-$100 is wild asf.

    • @ItsShaggy3
      @ItsShaggy3 2 дня назад +5

      I saw that Tekken is going the bs route when the MTX Battlepass betrayal happened and decided they won't get my money ever again.

  • @seanchan4478
    @seanchan4478 3 дня назад +14

    Thanks for posting this, I saw people talking about on reddit, and did not feel like watching an 8 hour video

  • @Nightmaroid
    @Nightmaroid 2 дня назад +8

    Frame Whisperer: ❌️
    Flame Spiterer: ✅️

  • @sjalabi35
    @sjalabi35 3 дня назад +20

    The fact that people who were simply being real with the trends they see in the franchise got so much flak and hate for it for YEARS just to be proven right in the end is so bittersweet

  • @XcutAngel
    @XcutAngel 3 дня назад +12

    There's more blocking on the Tekken team's Twitter than in the game. I roasted the game from day one on a live stream, stopped playing long ago because I saw the writing on the wall. My takes are often not popular but given enough time....😂

  • @blockchainballer4542
    @blockchainballer4542 2 дня назад +14

    Frame Whisperer = TMM Evil Twin

    • @VDViktor
      @VDViktor 2 дня назад +4

      More like a good twin then, since tmm is the c**t.

    • @aoneko6813
      @aoneko6813 2 дня назад +5

      Devil Jin 😂

  • @VamosLa.
    @VamosLa. 3 дня назад +15

    Talking about industry plants- kingjae is awfully and awkwardly silent throughout the whole video
    Just saying

  • @blackheart59_
    @blackheart59_ 20 часов назад +3

    The most beautiful Tekken video ive ever watched. I was DYING laughing😂

  • @Paint8087
    @Paint8087 3 дня назад +36

    King jae started looking guilty once frame started mentioning names.. watch his demeanor... didnt laugh or even crack a smile shakes his head once frame stopped talking...tell me im wrong.. then looks down as if hes texting someone.. smirking at his phone.. ratting maybe

    • @ducknlaunch
      @ducknlaunch 3 дня назад +3

      Stop reaching

    • @sampletext02
      @sampletext02 3 дня назад +9

      I wish I could be this stupid, life would be so easy...

    • @heretickishyt
      @heretickishyt 3 дня назад +4

      He was nervous

    • @VDViktor
      @VDViktor 2 дня назад +1

      @@sampletext02why wish for something you already possess?

    • @MarcusDobson916
      @MarcusDobson916 2 дня назад

      ​@@sampletext02it's crazy how people hunt for these types of comments just to leave a snarky comment like yours to get a few likes..,.. crazy times we live in....

  • @NathanxLaMontagne
    @NathanxLaMontagne День назад +1

    You couldn't get a time machine today and be much more accurate than he predicted (even pre Tekken 8)
    He has a video from like 4 or 5 years discussing the business practices in the relation of broken DLC characters.
    An educated person with actual balls and conviction is a powerful thing.

  • @Deep_wolf
    @Deep_wolf 2 дня назад +6

    I wasn't too hot on S2, but the next two days I felt into severe mood drop after realizing what's happened. It's like my best friend just died.

  • @ggmasterguiltygear6315
    @ggmasterguiltygear6315 3 дня назад +23

    Finish them Framewhisperer! FINISH THEM!!!

  • @MrSamuelAdam4
    @MrSamuelAdam4 3 дня назад +14

    It's time to go back to Tekken 7. Their is no saving 8.

  • @Renoistic
    @Renoistic 4 часа назад +1

    With "pros" like these I low-key hope they DO turn it into a gacha. Can't be a worse "community" than this.

  • @via_negativa6183
    @via_negativa6183 3 дня назад +19

    I think this is Harada giving control over to Mike Murray and his team of dead or alive and soull caliber devs. They fundamentally don't understand the game and why people like it.

    • @Shiratto
      @Shiratto 2 дня назад

      Soulcalibur at least knows what defense is

  • @walmartian422
    @walmartian422 3 дня назад +17

    Guys we need to just go back to T7 rev that playercount the F up we need to let Murray and Harada know they do not exist in this world without their fans.

  • @takanuvabosconovitch6072
    @takanuvabosconovitch6072 7 часов назад +1

    Tekken 8 waited 6 more months because of SF6 to be released... That means they had 20 months to work about the movement and defense.

  • @NomaGang
    @NomaGang 3 дня назад +7

    Telling you bro frame whisperer needs to be studied he’s to funny man 💀 this part of the stream was gold

  • @sulfreez
    @sulfreez 3 дня назад +7

    2:10 About T-devs selling an unfinshed game multiple times - guy's spitting facts.

  • @louiewag9343
    @louiewag9343 3 дня назад +8

    Frame has always known.

  • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
    @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 2 дня назад +4

    I could see this happening too Dude... If Tekken "Sheeps" who just stay in their Bubble actually had a DAMN Clue about other FG Franchises like, believe it or not Dead or Alive, the writing could have been seen Years ago!
    T7 was their DOA5(A succesfull *Cashgrab* actually accepted by the Playerbase) and
    T8 is their DOA6(and after DOA6 the franchise was Done!)
    Let that SINK IN!!

  • @louieverrtorreon684
    @louieverrtorreon684 2 дня назад +6

    I hope PlantedMedusa will also be in this podcast, both Frame and Medusa in a single podcast will be insane.

  • @DaggerPrince
    @DaggerPrince 2 дня назад +11

    i love you Frame, Mike, Medusa and the rest of you absolute gigachad champs walking the path of Truth.

  • @gillylambino1746
    @gillylambino1746 3 дня назад +9

    Dw guys, I run a small pizza business atm. Once I eventually put a down payment for a restaurant, I''ll send them a job application and make SURE they are putting the fries in the bag

    • @Eedorian
      @Eedorian 3 дня назад

      Please put Michael at the front as cashier, so he has to for once deal with human beings and not be able to block them.

    • @Mackievellian
      @Mackievellian 2 дня назад

      I hope you respect your actual fries-in-the-bag guy. That's a shit job.

  • @FightingFoxTK
    @FightingFoxTK 2 дня назад +3

    Remember around release when Arslan and Knee straight up said the game wasn't fun? And then they walked those tweets back...
    Thankfully, Knee has spoken up again recently.

  • @Mystra
    @Mystra 3 дня назад +22

    We need a new fighting game. I like Bleach but I want another Blazblu game tbh

    • @esaias4289
      @esaias4289 3 дня назад +16

      As much as I want a new BB, not sure we can trust Arc Systems to not "modernize" the series like we see in other recent titles.

    • @NotScrubNotGood
      @NotScrubNotGood 3 дня назад +2

      Me too. 😭

    • @DJnamedH
      @DJnamedH 3 дня назад +4

      Y esaias is right, you think you want but honestly just be grateful that your favourite franchise hasn't been dug up only to be watered tf down like most modern fgs.

    • @zekiel2533
      @zekiel2533 3 дня назад +1

      ​@@esaias4289exactly because when mori was at arc system works I was afraid like 5 years ago that he would dumb it down like daisuke did for guilty gear.
      BlazBlue being modernized would've been a disaster if mori wasn't careful. But he's gone unfortunately

    • @esaias4289
      @esaias4289 3 дня назад +2

      @@zekiel2533 Mori being gone is tragic, but at the end of the day CF is a very good game for the last entry in the series.

  • @Kazusus0
    @Kazusus0 3 дня назад +4

    The most epic rant about season 2 so far! Frame is killing it

  • @leocomerford
    @leocomerford 2 дня назад +5

    I hear Virtua Fighter is nice at this time of year.

  • @jasonelbowran4l
    @jasonelbowran4l 3 дня назад +17

    I keep saying gate keeping is a necessary evil to keep your scene pure.

  • @Magus12000BC
    @Magus12000BC 3 дня назад +5

    It's funny how he mentions a streamer playing Dead by Daylight because that game has had the same problems that Tekken has now. The devs balanced the game around room temperature IQ children and refused to listen to the community at large while "Fog Whisperers" glazed the game with their toxic positivity. The killer is designed to be AI to be bullied by teams and the instant that the killer is given any tools to control the game, it's taken away because the side that's four times larger will cry, complain, and stop buying skins.
    If you watch any streamer and he or she plays that game on the regular, that streamer probably doesn't hold any genuine opinions on any game being played.

    • @SomersBugtopia
      @SomersBugtopia 2 дня назад

      DBD has been massively killer sided for like a year or so though

  • @Squidwards-t2z
    @Squidwards-t2z 2 дня назад +5

    King Jae looks terrified 🤣😂 Wondering if everyone else is on to him, yeah Jae, we know you're one of the shills too!

  • @VeraduxLP
    @VeraduxLP 2 дня назад +8

    100% This shit has been starting in T7 already probably even earlier. I miss those jump over techs at the wall... :(

    • @Shiratto
      @Shiratto 2 дня назад +3

      I'm saying.
      T7 may be better right now but it's got major problems as well that were directly carried to 8

    • @MeatSim64
      @MeatSim64 2 дня назад

      ​​@@Shiratto It's like they don't learn from their past mistakes. Instead they double down. Friggin idiots 🙄
      T7 has Geese and Gouki/Akuma being broken as hell still, despite the nerfs 😑

    • @VeraduxLP
      @VeraduxLP День назад +2

      @@Shiratto Of course. T7 was already trash which was the reason we were hopefull for T8. :D

  • @HouseMusicNinja
    @HouseMusicNinja 3 дня назад +9

    I've been waiting for Frame to break this down. Bro holds back nothing.

  • @BlackTalon1996
    @BlackTalon1996 3 дня назад +7

    Shout outs to FrameWhisperer man 😄 dude is completely unhinged

    • @ZoneInOn
      @ZoneInOn День назад

      He's not unhinged, that makes him sound unstable, he's just someone burnt out from a game that could have been great and they have ruined it for loads of people, and then prioritised creators who never complain. He's just honest and raw and isn't afraid to call it out

  • @metall7331
    @metall7331 2 дня назад +2

    He's literally voicing everything I've been thinking since Tekken 8 closed beta 🔥🔥🔥

  • @balladin9200
    @balladin9200 3 дня назад +25

    King Jae is a shill why is he here 😂

    • @egrassa1480
      @egrassa1480 2 дня назад

      I don't think he's a shill, he just tries to stay a bit politically correct

    • @VDViktor
      @VDViktor 2 дня назад +9

      @@egrassa1480so… a shill?

    • @Darkman1432
      @Darkman1432 День назад

      Cause he's involved with the UK scene so I guess it's weird for them if they don't invite him. But then again, they could've brought Tendo here instead

    • @egrassa1480
      @egrassa1480 День назад

      @@VDViktor that's not what a shill is

  • @apex_predator9401
    @apex_predator9401 3 дня назад +7

    Yes!! This is what we need frame opening a can of whoopass on namco

  • @MikhaliX
    @MikhaliX 3 дня назад +11

    Dev Team wants to turn Tekken into a Kusoge

    • @AAJOB
      @AAJOB 2 дня назад +8

      They already succeeded in doing that with T7; Temu8 is the aftermath + some; i.e full blown party game territory

    • @alexferrier5732
      @alexferrier5732 День назад

      Maximillian did an interesting metaphor about this in his recent video. He said something along the lines of "So they gave us some taste of a delicious chocolate candy in Tekken 7 and in Tekken 8 first season (powerful, easy to execute moves) and a lot of people liked it, casuals loved it, even some pros kinda liked it, so what did the devs team do? They said "Ohh you liked that chocolate candy right? Ok, for T8 Season 2 here is A FUCKING TRIPLE CHOCOLATE ICECREAM WITH CHOCOLATE SYRUP SERVED ON A CHOCOLATE CONE WITH CHOCOCHIPS SPRINKLED SO YOU CAN DIE OF FUCKING DIABETES".
      I agree with his statement, the dev team overkilled it this time.

  • @Prog242
    @Prog242 2 дня назад +4

    I know all of us feel vindicated right now, but let's be real
    these guys want constructive criticism,
    FOR A YEAR i've been saying:
    combos should be avg ~60dmg(~80 if Heat), less of this: +Frame Rushdown -> forced 50/50 -> 110dmg if guess wrong
    You think anyone at bandai ever thought: "these long ass, high damage combos kinda make 60sec feel like 3"
    you could make T8 good, they won't, wankers.
    Y'all forget THEY GAVE HEIHACHI A DAUGHTER. and we're mad at the actual mechanics of the game, think about that.
    ball . blend ........ on the shop ........ for 30$
    "Look at the screen Michael, I mean look at it"

    • @egrassa1480
      @egrassa1480 2 дня назад +1

      They don't want constructive criticism, Murray block it or ignores, it's been 13 months and they ignored most of critcism

  • @RuinHD
    @RuinHD День назад +1

    Righteous anger. completely justified

  • @ldAstrid
    @ldAstrid 3 дня назад +3

    Mike i appreciate you and everyone who goes onto your stream for being at the forefront of this fight to get out game back to where it should be bro.

    • @snakebebop
      @snakebebop 3 дня назад +15

      LMAO you think Mike is making a difference? If you want to make a difference then speak with your wallet. The Namcop's already got Mikes money.

    • @God1st949
      @God1st949 3 дня назад +2

      Stop playing the game and make your voice heard.

  • @samseison
    @samseison 3 дня назад +6

    I aint gonna lie. Ive missed Frame 😂😂😂

  • @XanderElion
    @XanderElion 3 дня назад +9

    Waka Flocka Frame

  • @ineski
    @ineski 3 дня назад +2

    Thank you Frame. Spitting absolute fire. Respect.

  • @esteBAM979
    @esteBAM979 16 часов назад +1

    Man what's up with King Jae. Never seen someone not at least crack a smile around frame whisperer. Jae is just like dead inside. He is awkwardly silent. Looking like he doesn't want to be there, and super worried about his own image.

  • @Zafarnama111
    @Zafarnama111 3 дня назад +7

    Frame always delivers

  • @Deep_wolf
    @Deep_wolf 2 дня назад +9

    This shit started with Tekken Revolution. Did y'all forgot about Red Moves???

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 2 дня назад +2

      Got messaged with threats for beating scrubs that only spammed those repeatedly, online.... mostly Law players. I did have a spectacular matchup with a Bryan player that came down to me winning with an armdrag counter. He even messaged me praise for my King gameplay, back then. Some good times, but not many.

    • @Deep_wolf
      @Deep_wolf 2 дня назад

      @@TexasHollowEarth All I remember is Eliza big boobs competition and Spanish Kazuyas spamming lazers...

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 День назад

      It was also pay2win, don't forget. They dgaf 😂

    • @mac-n-steez999
      @mac-n-steez999 День назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @xdepapepon7810
    @xdepapepon7810 3 дня назад +4

    I wished that the Armored Core community has a strong stance against toxic positivity like Tekken community. I'm so jealous.

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 2 дня назад +2

      The original 3 PS1 games are up on PS4/5 digitally now. Man I love me some classic Armored Core linked Vs battles 🤜🤛

  • @SerFableYT
    @SerFableYT 3 дня назад +3

    This is a great honesty and things I want more of. Does anyone remember the vanilla FFXIV? I feel like if Harada, Murray, and Nakatsu want to retain there dignity is to talk to higher ups and completely start over for Tekken 8.
    That's exactly what happened in FF14 and now it's a cherished game in the community and developers.
    There was always communication between players and devs for Tekken 8. The devs blatantly ignored the community and said "nah". A full restart is the only way to salvage the franchise. Otherwise...Tekken 8 isn't going to last long.

    • @kinslayer3995
      @kinslayer3995 3 дня назад +4

      not even
      XIV 1.0 was UNPLAYABLE
      Also nice jab shitting on harada while Yoshi P is making the game more homogenized, classes losing identity and encounters being boring

    • @Caribbean-Man
      @Caribbean-Man 2 дня назад +4

      @@kinslayer3995 facts! yoshida may have saved 14 but he like harada is killing his own game. 14 dawntrail has be a disaster man.

  • @unciervoenciervado
    @unciervoenciervado 2 дня назад +4

    Frame's Meet The Grahams

  • @horrifichalo
    @horrifichalo 3 дня назад +6

    27:00 what we are seeing with tekken 8 is making every peice on the chess board a queen.

  • @omaisgee123
    @omaisgee123 2 дня назад +2

    love frame! always have, the man's integrity is admirable

  • @TK_TheFURY
    @TK_TheFURY 16 часов назад +2

    7:10 this, FrameWhisperer has been very critical of this game from the start and I have been agreeing to his opinions simply because they make sense. Any of the benefiters of this game will never speak ill about it because they have a family to feed.

  • @KazeShikamaru
    @KazeShikamaru 2 дня назад +2

    30 minute promo from the legend. Dude is great.

  • @Caribbean-Man
    @Caribbean-Man 2 дня назад +1

    Raven: "The King of Iron Fist Tournament Eight is dead"
    Victor & Master Raven: "Copy"
    11:30: if this happens...im flying to japan and crashing out man. i pray this doesnt happen. we're living in the darkest timeline!

  • @storkshot
    @storkshot 3 дня назад +1

    It's generating enough buzz that more newbies are getting the game at season 2. To bamco, regardless of negative feedback, it's still a win

  • @rocklee1485
    @rocklee1485 3 дня назад +3

    I watched live yesterday but i have to rewatch it because he said some very interesting stuff

  • @thahli
    @thahli 3 дня назад +3

    I can’t think of single time Frame lied 🌹

  • @Awesmic1
    @Awesmic1 3 дня назад +15

    For the longest time I was told Frame Whisperer was this really bad guy in the Tekken community no one spoke of by name, and I believed it without a second thought.
    After seeing this podcast, it's evident that I'm not immune to propaganda. He's not as bad as people say he is.

    • @DKCreo
      @DKCreo 3 дня назад +22

      Always find out for yourself. The internet is full of many sensitive people who can't see beyond their echo chambers.

    • @Invictus_Mithra
      @Invictus_Mithra 3 дня назад +7

      What? Who said that lol. I've never come across that

    • @genzo454
      @genzo454 3 дня назад +8

      Personally, I've never heard that (And I have been watching Frame's vids since ~2021). The closest I've heard was that Tekken 8 made Frame much angrier than Tekken 7, to the point where he hates the series now. (A statement which is pretty accurate, I would think.)
      So like, he's an angry guy who hates Bandai Namco? Doesn't that just make him a true Tekken player??? 😂

    • @gaetanoisgro6710
      @gaetanoisgro6710 3 дня назад

      Everyone talks shit about everyone, you can only think for yourself nowdays.

  • @d_atura
    @d_atura День назад +1

    Aris explanation on this whole thing makes a lot of sense. All of this is being made out spite. Namco hates your ass and want you, Tekken fan, to suffer

  • @CKZaibatsu
    @CKZaibatsu 3 дня назад +2

    This is exactly what I wanted!

  • @countlessbathory1485
    @countlessbathory1485 2 дня назад

    Frame was always honest even when you disagree with him you can be sure he is speaking his mind. Props to him.

  • @Raijin_Thunder_God
    @Raijin_Thunder_God 2 дня назад +1

    I always say it's better to have a game when every character is close to a tier Instead of everybody being op s tier, A character that is a tier is mostlike cloes perfectly balanced

  • @VDViktor
    @VDViktor 3 дня назад +2

    And that’s why I have utmost respect for FW

  • @ChrisNewman-d5w
    @ChrisNewman-d5w 3 дня назад +5

    Dude frame always cracks me up 😂

  • @Yun-gt1nw
    @Yun-gt1nw 2 дня назад +1

    It was never about leaving a good legacy for Harada, it was always to make the most money off the fans and sell out Tekken to the next highest bidder. Once you realize this like Framewhisperer did yrs ago it all makes sense. I mean think about it, it’s the 30th anniversary for Tekken, and what have they done to celebrate the franchise for loyal fans? They’re more interested in presenting tencent with their new gacha waifu anime idea known as Tekken 8 so they can sell it out.

  • @NOVAC-pl7mc
    @NOVAC-pl7mc 2 дня назад +1

    The Messiah, FrameWhisperer

  • @Dizintegrator
    @Dizintegrator 3 дня назад +3

    When a man is right, he's right ✋😌🤚

  • @massivecentipede
    @massivecentipede 3 дня назад +13

    just nerf gigas

    • @sarunotaslt
      @sarunotaslt 3 дня назад +2

      *Adds gigas to t8 just to nerf him*

    • @Dark_Crow_Official
      @Dark_Crow_Official 2 дня назад +1

      Do you mean "adjust" him ?

    • @Caribbean-Man
      @Caribbean-Man 2 дня назад

      no gigas
      no buy
      seriously where is gigas???

    • @massivecentipede
      @massivecentipede 2 дня назад

      @@Dark_Crow_Official omg fck you are right father Bamco, ill use proper terminology next time.

    • @ZoneInOn
      @ZoneInOn День назад

      ​@Caribbean-Man he was bottom 3 in popularity and every tier list consistently. He won't ever return imo, I reckon they'll get rid of shaheen, zafina (canonically), Claudio, Leo. I don't get their dlc decision. There's so many boring characters that are higher priority over other returning characters like bob, Bruce, armour king, Lei, wang

  • @normansainz6328
    @normansainz6328 3 дня назад +2

    Bro I wish this game was like soul calibur. Combos would do less damage, better movement, weaknesses in characters, more defensive options like guard impact or Reversal edge and less frame advantage on block. I play them both and believe me tekken 8 is nothing like soul calibur

    • @Caribbean-Man
      @Caribbean-Man 2 дня назад +2

      FACCCCCTSSSS! soul calibur is my favorite fightan game and good lord the difference is night and day, in SC6 we have defensive options out the wazooooo, in T8? guess.

  • @941zeke
    @941zeke День назад +1

    That remark about namco telling rip to take his comment down. Didn't that happen with Arslan Ash? When the game first came out he was negative, then changed his tune so fast.

  • @championredd
    @championredd 3 дня назад +6

    Did you see murry was in aris’s stream trolling saying he’s going to add more explosions and anime characters

    • @Cr1ms0nRav3n
      @Cr1ms0nRav3n 3 дня назад +1

      When was this?

    • @championredd
      @championredd 3 дня назад +1

      @ I seen the clip on yt yesterday

    • @titsbitchmcgee7502
      @titsbitchmcgee7502 3 дня назад

      I think that was just some dude larping.

    • @championredd
      @championredd 3 дня назад +1

      @ ruclips.net/video/RY7B9oiXsNo/видео.htmlfeature=shared

    • @TheLolimbored
      @TheLolimbored 3 дня назад +13

      "look at the screen murray.. just look at it"