VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

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ancienregimele

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roro said:
Fair points, but I don't see lust and love as totally disjoint. Especially in Sam's age, love can be accompanied by lust. The fact he lusts for Sophia doesn't mean he isn't in love with her.
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My thoughts exactly, plus if you don't accompany being in love with a huge amount of lust when you're a teenager, then when?
 
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Xyzwvu said:
Played. Any other?
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That depends entirely on what you're after. The greatest strength, but also it's greatest flaw of AWAM is that there are so many routes for so many people. I can recommend a bunch, but if you're after M/S content, then it's a waste of both our time.
 
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What I believe Sam actually is, is "infatuated" with Sophia not in love. Everyone here says he is in love and lust is only for Dylan and other characters, which I don't agree with. Sam is basically consumed by the same Milf fantasy as the others. In long term he will just move on from her and find a girl his age. When the woman is 22 yrs older than you, there isn't scope. It's all infatuation.
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If Sam's Arc had a soundtrack it would be Stacy's Mom by Fountains of Wayne.
 
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What are the percentage between the "MC seducing/effing girls" content and "MC seducing/effing dudes" content? And is this game complicated to play?
 
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Sabertooth__ said:
Okay.... Now is saying anything against Sam bashing his character. Is speaking against him forbidden even though that's not the case for other characters. My entire message was never focused on what Sam is but on what Sam's route is.

Both of you misunderstood the very essence of what I wrote. Everyone considers the Sam route a romantic route, I have a different perspective and so I put it forward without saying anything to debase the character.

I stated that he is not in love with Sophia, he just wants her body just like any other character in the game, this statement is not based on my own assumption but on the lines said by Sam himself.

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Now tell me is this love or lust. He might be fooling Sophia but us as audience we know the truth right. I said everyone is entitled to their opinion because once again I didn't want to come off as the person who is bashing the character. I avoided going in depth to about that matter because that would cause me to use negative statements. Still I get accused with this.

To this I can only say that if you feel what I said is wrong explain it to me. Tell me why Sam's feelings are genuine, that it is actually a romantic route and not him deceiving Sophia. He tried to show Dylan up at the pool as well.

His true personality is not shown to Sophia. Infront of her he acts as this sweet kind boy whereas his true colours come Infront of Dylan. So tell me he is a genuine romantic character.

I said I get why people call it a romantic, I acknowledge it but doesn't mean there can't be another perspective on it. In my next post once again I only talk about my main question that is "WHAT IS SAM'S ROUTE EXACTLY" "WHAT DOES L&P SEE THIS ROUTE AS". Both my posts in it's essence had nothing to do with debasing Sam's character.

If someone still feels that I am only hating on the character and didn't speak objectively then you should tell me what in my statements was wrong.

I never go out of my way to try and change someone's mind about Sam. I didn't join the whole calling Sam "the other guy" trend. Last time I said something against Sam was when someone called him sympathetic which ofcourse he's not, visible to everyone playing. Over the months whenever anyone said anything about the Sam event being unrealistic I stood for the Sam's event.

As for Sophia saying she could date Sam, you also need to read the situation, in that situation the better answer is to tell Sam that she would and not say that no I won't. Sophia is not aware of Sam intent as he acts all sweet with her, I spoke from the perspective of an outsider who sees both sides and asked can it be called a romantic route when he too is fueled with lust and has a very deceptive approach . It may easier for you to picture yourself as Sam, no issues there at all, infact I had no issue to begin with.
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Saber, Saber, Saber. No negative? You started negative.

Can Sam's route really be called romantic.

That called into question anyone's view that it is. Remember, he is a teenager. He is (was) friends with Dylan. Sam voices the hormones that are raging but, apparently just for Sophia. Ellie is an afterthought in discussion with Sophia. Is this "The Notebook"? Nope,


I mean I get why people refer to it as a romantic path, Sam acting like a hopeless romantic etc but behind this facade the reality isn't pure at all. The guy too wants Sophia's body. We do know what he thinks about Sophia from his exchange with Dylan in the initial game days.

You just see Sam from this exchange but only in the negative. He is pleading with Dylan to acknowledge the beauty of Sophia. He does so in a language Dylan understands. Sam does not realize Dylan's point of view. He does not conceive that Dylan not only knows Sophia's beauty but, wants it for himself. Is Sam a teenager? Absolutely! Is he emotionally immature? Duh! AND is this not a porn game where everyone must see Sophia with desire? Sam is the closest to Romantic outside the GW path. It is his position.

Maybe he is more the Lancelot then the Percival. (Definitely not James Garner / Ryan Gosling right!) Lancelot betrayed his King, betrayed the Round Table and, ultimately, betrayed the woman he loved. Is this more the young Sam? He is willing to do anything to quiet his restless heart.
 
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jooojaaa said:
What are the percentage between the "MC seducing/effing girls" content and "MC seducing/effing dudes" content? And is this game complicated to play?
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In terms of the MC actively seducing either, there's none. It's more a case of the MC getting seduced, currently there's far more erotic content on the lesbian side, but apparently that's due to change Soon™
 
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Alley_Cat said:
In terms of the MC actively seducing either, there's none. It's more a case of the MC getting seduced, currently there's far more erotic content on the lesbian side, but apparently that's due to change Soon™
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Much appreciated for the clarification.

But I wonder whether the content on the "straight" side, can be avoided?
 
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jooojaaa said:
Much appreciated for the clarification.

But I wonder whether the content on the "straight" side, can be avoided?
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If you want to avoid as much straight content as possible, then try my walkthrough from the OP. There are some "straight" parts, particularly at the start as you build up enough Filthy points, and then Sophia has to look at some dicks in the sauna in order to get to the Nightclub scene, but that's about it.
 
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Two statements from L&P that seem to contradict each other.

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Here you can see the whole dimension of the scene. It's really tough working with it. To render it I even had to NVLink my two GPUs, becauce the 24 GB VRAM of a single one were too little for it. I'm glad when it's over and I move to part 2 of the event which will be much easier to work with.

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Since Part II stays top secret, you'll get a little bonus teaser of Part I. So, this will be the last teaser of this event. Which also means that the next and last teaser of this update could take some time.
 
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KillJoys said:
Two statements from L&P that seem to contradict each other.

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Here you can see the whole dimension of the scene. It's really tough working with it. To render it I even had to NVLink my two GPUs, becauce the 24 GB VRAM of a single one were too little for it. I'm glad when it's over and I move to part 2 of the event which will be much easier to work with.

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Since Part II stays top secret, you'll get a little bonus teaser of Part I. So, this will be the last teaser of this event. Which also means that the next and last teaser of this update could take some time.
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The only explanation is that with 4K ( sep 5 ) he's done with the first part. He's been working on part two for some time (Sept 5), and the next teaser will be with Cathy.
 
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KillJoys said:
Two statements from L&P that seem to contradict each other.

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Here you can see the whole dimension of the scene. It's really tough working with it. To render it I even had to NVLink my two GPUs, becauce the 24 GB VRAM of a single one were too little for it. I'm glad when it's over and I move to part 2 of the event which will be much easier to work with.

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Since Part II stays top secret, you'll get a little bonus teaser of Part I. So, this will be the last teaser of this event. Which also means that the next and last teaser of this update could take some time.
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Just like the Sophia/Aiden event, He might be adding things... As one can assume.
 
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Alley_Cat said:
If you want to avoid as much straight content as possible, then try my walkthrough from the OP. There are some "straight" parts, particularly at the start as you build up enough Filthy points, and then Sophia has to look at some dicks in the sauna in order to get to the Nightclub scene, but that's about it.
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Thanks for the help. I guess a few scenes like that wouldn't hurt any way lol.
 
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KillJoys said:
Two statements from L&P that seem to contradict each other.

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Here you can see the whole dimension of the scene. It's really tough working with it. To render it I even had to NVLink my two GPUs, becauce the 24 GB VRAM of a single one were too little for it. I'm glad when it's over and I move to part 2 of the event which will be much easier to work with.

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Since Part II stays top secret, you'll get a little bonus teaser of Part I. So, this will be the last teaser of this event. Which also means that the next and last teaser of this update could take some time.
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It's locked for me
 
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Maybe you should put on one of those rompers you're so upset about? That’s your subjective opinion, an observation you made. And if I or anyone else here subjectively analyzes Sam's character and finds that he is a piece of shit, as he is for many others, I would man to maybeee ? woman recommend you not to post such crap here.
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Either you take your internet forums very seriously, or you missed the point that I was joking around?
 
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KillJoys said:
Two statements from L&P that seem to contradict each other.

You must be registered to see the links

Here you can see the whole dimension of the scene. It's really tough working with it. To render it I even had to NVLink my two GPUs, becauce the 24 GB VRAM of a single one were too little for it. I'm glad when it's over and I move to part 2 of the event which will be much easier to work with.

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Since Part II stays top secret, you'll get a little bonus teaser of Part I. So, this will be the last teaser of this event. Which also means that the next and last teaser of this update could take some time.
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he is moving to the Sophie/Sam part?after the concert? :unsure:
 
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PaxHadrian17 said:
Okay, I know that Sam's band is not doing Battle of the Bands yet but that is the best lead in I have for sharing this... :) I enjoy many cover bands and this one includes a collaboration with a guy who plays drums and keyboard at the same time - the dude Rocks!
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You guys are knocking my sock off! I have a penchant for talented non-main-stream performers who create rather than imitate. It looks to me that the 'guy' playing keyboards while simultaneously striking the standing bass drum was Kurt Schneider. Macy Kate has a nice expressive alto voice. All in all I enjoyed it very much.
Thank you, Jack.
 
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